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Wednesday, February 4, 2009


New pay scale for Lt. Colonels

They have been placed in pay band-4 with a grade pay of Rs. 8,000

Government has issued orders placing officers of the rank of Lieutenant Colonel and their equivalents in the other two Services in the pay band-4 with a grade pay of Rs. 8,000 and identified “non-combat” deputations that will not draw this benefit.

The government indicated in January its decision to address the issue of anomalies in the pay structure and orders to this effect were received by the Services on Monday, sources in the Defence Ministry said.

Lt. Colonels will now be upgraded to the pay bracket of Rs. 37,400-67,000 (PB-4) with a grade pay of Rs. 8,000 from the earlier scale of Rs. 15,600-39,100 (PB-3) with a grade pay of Rs. 7,600.

Tenure postings

The new pay band will be applicable to tenure postings done by officers of these ranks with departments such as the Defence Research and Development Organisation, the Director-General (Quality Assurance), National Cadet Corps, the Assam Rifles, the National Security Guards and the Border Roads Organisation.

The armed forces were not clear over the decision after it became known that the new pay band will be only for those in combat role.

Last month, tri-services Principal Personnel Officers Committee Chairman Vice-Admiral D.K. Dewan wrote a letter to the Ministry, making a case for inclusion of all officers of the rank in the pay band, including those on deputation to other wings such as paramilitary forces.

The sources said that with this order, some 18,000 officers would stand to benefit and those who remain to draw pay band-3 would be officers on deputation to organisations such as the Railways and the National Highways Authority of India, where the nature of duty was not in line with normal combat profile.


Anonymous said...

Well Commandant sahib,
what are you doing for PMF officers in that grade.

Coast Guard Officer said...

BP Sir,
Is there any hope for Commandant(junior grade) for getting PB-4.
Please also confirm if same is given to Navy Cdrs only after 15 years of service.

fouji friend said...

Dear BP,
Why no blog's view in this news. You must do that in order to have healthy debate on the issue by both AF and PMF officers.
I feel it is this debate on two blog :ie your's and navdeep's which keep our mind up and awake , and away from daily rut job of this fouj and must be same for PMF also.

Anonymous said...

I agree with my friend in OG above and like to know more of your views than news

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,
It is matter a of strange that AF are given PB-4 to Ltcols ,those in combat or combat ready role.
Well considering that if one is in OG one will be either of these two.
Under same conditions PMF officers are working, thus Second-in-Command and similar officers of all other PMFs should be placed in PB-4 without any further delay

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,
In Navdeep Singh blog the views of him are not balanced.
When Brig is equated with IG IT BECOMES UPLIFTMENT,where as when SE is equated with Col by court stating army own equation letter then it is just an error.
What a dual face of these army officers.
One side the speak against quota system and on other side want reservation of wards of Army in every part of life from school to college and to every job.
Do these foujis have any answer?

Anonymous said...

Dear BP,

All this while we all have been giving all kind of views on the various service conditions , perks and rank etc. Look what is happening behind you.............It is really ironic that coast Guard officers are not even iota of the idea that what their big sister sister is doing and they are preparing to sink this fine service.....Please try and do some thing to save yor service at least create some awareness about the dirty intensions of the Navy to sink thIS fine service.

I an copying the article published in DECCAN HERALD.:-


Will the Coast Guard sink?

By Prabhakaran Paleri

The Navy was seemingly unwilling to accept the Coast Guard from the very beginning.

Has the Navy finally torpedoed the Coast Guard? The Coast Guard is confused about the hasty changes it feels in the offing before the current government demits office. It knows that the Navy had a long cherished dream to make the Coast Guard an auxiliary to it. After 32 years and many futile attempts by the Navy, it feels, it is likely to happen with the introduction of the ‘Coastal Command’, an antiquated concept, under the Navy.
The government fails to appreciate that the Coast Guard has an organisational structure that is much wider and legally valid than the proposed Coastal Command. And that it will do better to expand and equip the Coast Guard for its charter to enforce law and provide service in the maritime zones as per the Coast Guard Act. Instead, by placing the Coast Guard under the Navy at its beck and call, it is not only the Act, but also the Constitution that gets violated.


The hastened decision will permanently seal the zeal of the Coast Guard and its future effectiveness as a nonmilitary maritime armed force of modern India. The Indian Coast Guard was a fine service, well accepted by the international community. But unfortunately its problems with the Navy were inveterate that its founders failed to appreciate ab initio. The Coast Guard has been going through a kind of naval blockade and interruption since its inception as if there was a slogan ‘to guard against the Coast Guard’.

The Navy was seemingly unwilling to accept the idea of the Coast Guard from the very beginning. That may perhaps lie in the reason that it could not chart an altered course for a ‘new found Navy’ shedding its role of a Coast Guard. Or perhaps India was not matured enough to accept the Coast Guard as a useful maritime armed force. It has been so with many other countries, which created coast guards with the navies around in coast guard roles. While the world changed, the naval mindset in many such countries remained fossilised within the coast guard mould. Added to that was lack of maritime awareness. India was expected to be different. It remains a puzzle why the Indian Navy failed to appreciate it.

Even the ministry of defence, unlike in the past, reportedly succumbed to the pressures of the Navy with no opposition from the Coast Guard. That is because the Coast Guard has no say. The Black Wednesday in amchi Mumbai proved to be an opportunity for the Navy to expand rather than to introspect.


The founders of the Coast Guard would have never imagined the Coast Guard would meet with such a fate. They placed it under the ministry of defence in good faith expecting the Navy to nurture it to grow. Instead, the Navy exploited the paltry resources of the Coast Guard including personnel vacancies for itself exercising absolute authority over it. The Navy indirectly steered the Coast Guard through the directors general appointed by it. The Coast Guard not only became a dogged body dependent on the Navy but also its laundry bag when things went wrong. The latest is the Mumbai mayhem. More will follow.

India, as a responsible maritime state, created the Coast Guard for enforcing ‘rule of law’ and providing service at sea under international treaties. The Coast Guard is an international service with a human face. The nodal ministry for many of its activities is external affairs. It is now going to be restricted for operations. Was placing it under the ministry of defence alongside the Navy a bad idea? Did the Coast Guard become an unwanted sibling in the family? An Admiral even tried to merge it with the Navy as Indian Naval Coastal Service without reverence to its legal base. The ministry, however, opposed it.

It is not that the government is unaware. Still there wasn’t even a dedicated joint secretary to voice for the Coast Guard in the ministry.

The saga of the Indian Coast Guard is about to end. And along with it India’s international image among the maritime community. Long live the Coast Guard.
(The writer is a former director general of Coast Guard
The article can be read on

Anonymous said...

Well can navy do it ? they tried few years back also

loverboy said...

this is with reference to mr paleri's article. i dont think that the navy is in anyway interested to have coast guard around it. coast guard has truly been nurtured under the navy and i remember from the olden days that navy always wanted coast guard to be an independent arm. even today naval officers are just not interested to go and serve in coast guard billets. there is a vast difference of culture, starting from intake to promotions what with 50% resv and all that. i have served with coast guard officers who admit that they would not like to give sensitive issues onboard in the hands of coast guard officers and would prefer a naval officer instead. but that was old times.

mr paleri wants the authority of the coastline with coast guard, but not the responsibility attached with it. coast guard wanted the authority over coast line so when 26/11 happenned who should take responsibility? since when did navy stop coast guard from undertaking patrols or for that matter acquire assets required for undertaking patrols. stop blaming navy for your failures. it would be worthwhile to ask mr paleri as to what did he do in the period that he was the DG? pl. understand that a naval officer is kept on top so that the org survives the day he is gone you are sure to sink due to your own wayward ways.


Anonymous said...

Dear Loverboy,

I do not agree with you that navy is not interested in having coast guard around it. As you seems to be a naval officer (may be Ex)and must be knowing that there have been various attempt has already been made by the elder service as reported by Dr.Paleri and were not agreed to by the Govt. except one i.e. to put coast guard under unified command at A&N. The navy till date is unwilling to let go despite coast guard efforts. Yes i agree with you as far as the present condition of the service. As I am also watching this fine servicefrom the close quarters the coast guard officers have not shown much of affinity towards the service and they have been busy in pleasing their bosses as a result the service has taken the back seat. Blaming coast guard solely for 26/11 is not correct as navy is equally to blame.
It is agreed if the coast guard officers especially those who are in key positions and can really do some thing purely in favour of service and take it as a wake up call and do some thing drastic forgetting their ACRs only then service can be saved. May wisdom prevail in coast guard officers and may LONG LIVE COAST GUARD

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